Can you explain the Bible view point on Marriage?

"If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;" (Titus 1:6-7 KJVA)     N N

              Now what does the Bible speak about this subject?  Bascaly one man for one woman for one life time

I have alluded to marriage difficulties before. If I engage a tribe whose chief has ten wives, what do I do? Do I have him divorce nine of them? Is divorce wrong with him? To which one can he be married? Do I let him have all ten of them? Think about what you would allow, especially if it is not under the supervision if the Catholic church.

"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.  If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.  "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell” [Matthew 5:27-30].

Most people do not take this to be either a literal eye or hand. Yahshua was speaking about being cast into “hell.” But if we want this phrase to mean to be cast into “hell,” what difference does it make if we use one eye or not?

How many times do you find the word “right” used in the bible? Would it make any difference if the word “left” is used? What is the figurative use of the word “right?”

"It was said, 'WHOEVER SENDS HIS WIFE AWAY, LET HIM GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE';  but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery” [Matthew 5:31-32].

I am sure that you have discussed this verse over and over and probably do not yet understand most of the questions. So let me ask a question that you probably have not asked? What is said about a man who is married to two or more women at the same time? Since you usually always deal with the United States laws, you probably say that it is wrong. But what does the bible say about being married to two or more women at the same time?

One thing that we know is that leaders of the ekklesia could only be married to one woman, that is, the leaders could be married only to one woman, or be married to one woman at a time or be single. Titus and Timothy both teach this, if you can figure out which one of the three they are speaking.

An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach” [1 Timothy 3:2].

But for the deacons it appears that we have a translation problem. Look closely and see how many deacons there are, then see how many wives are there? Are all of the deacons married to one woman?

Deacons likewise must be men of dignity, not double-tongued, or addicted to much wine or fond of sordid gain, but holding to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. These men must also first be tested; then let them serve as deacons if they are beyond reproach. Women must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things. Deacons must be husbands of only one wife, and good managers of their children and their own households” [1 Timothy 3:8-12].

Notice the translation in the K.J.V..  

Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well” [1 Timothy 3:12].

We know that one deacon and one wife for him is what is meant. However, overseers are listed as being singular, by deacons are listed as plural. Maybe that has more meaning than we usually attach to it.

Now we know about the overseers and deacons, what about all of the other believers? Could they be married to more than one woman at a time?

I have alluded to marriage difficulties before. If I engage a tribe whose chief has ten wives, what do I do? Do I have him divorce nine of them? Is divorce wrong with him? To which one can he be married? Do I let him have all ten of them? Think about what you would allow, especially if it is not under the supervision if the Catholic church.

"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.  If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.  "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell” [Matthew 5:27-30].

Most people do not take this to be either a literal eye or hand. Yahshua was speaking about being cast into “hell.” But if we want this phrase to mean to be cast into “hell,” what difference does it make if we use one eye or not?

How many times do you find the word “right” used in the bible? Would it make any difference if the word “left” is used? What is the figurative use of the word “right?”

"It was said, 'WHOEVER SENDS HIS WIFE AWAY, LET HIM GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE';  but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery” [Matthew 5:31-32].

I am sure that you have discussed this verse over and over and probably do not yet understand most of the questions. So let me ask a question that you probably have not asked? What is said about a man who is married to two or more women at the same time? Since you usually always deal with the United States laws, you probably say that it is wrong. But what does the bible say about being married to two or more women at the same time?

One thing that we know is that leaders of the ekklesia could only be married to one woman, that is, the leaders could be married only to one woman, or be married to one woman at a time or be single. Titus and Timothy both teach this, if you can figure out which one of the three they are speaking.

An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach” [1 Timothy 3:2].

But for the deacons it appears that we have a translation problem. Look closely and see how many deacons there are, then see how many wives are there? Are all of the deacons married to one woman?

Deacons likewise must be men of dignity, not double-tongued, or addicted to much wine or fond of sordid gain, but holding to the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. These men must also first be tested; then let them serve as deacons if they are beyond reproach. Women must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things. Deacons must be husbands of only one wife, and good managers of their children and their own households” [1 Timothy 3:8-12].

Notice the translation in the K.J.V..  

Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well” [1 Timothy 3:12].

We know that one deacon and one wife for him is what is meant. However, overseers are listed as being singular, by deacons are listed as plural. Maybe that has more meaning than we usually attach to it.

Now we know about the overseers and deacons, what about all of the other believers? Could they be married to more than one woman at a time?  To be continued...

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  • Brother Denis,

    I would say that it is far better to understand The Spirit of this mitzvoth, rather than the letter of The Law, as Yeshua(Jesus) has pointed out. All of the points are pointing to one man and one woman that make a marriage. It doesn't matter if your are talking about one job or another in The Church. It's the Calling that each are positioned to that is what authority you stand before G-d as accountable.

    All of the different words do not make any difference to G-d. What does make a difference here is, how are we living out our Salvation in The Light that we now have? What is being said is concerning Accountability before G-d and our fellow man/woman.

    Lee

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  • This has been a matter of contention for a very long time. It some denominations the message is clear, "You can only be married once. If you have been married and divorced and remarry, then you cannot be a pastor of the church".  To me this goes aginst the love and forgiveness that permeates the entire New Testament gospel message. It definitely contradicts the teaching of forgiveness.  There is one provision, not allowance but provision, that states if the wife leaves the husband (and the wife was unsaved and wicked) then the man is no longer held accountable to the marriage contract.  In this case it was permissible to remarry. In other words if the man remarried under those conditions it would not be considered adultery. 

    In any case, I believe the summation of it is this. Polygamy was not practiced as it once was and the scripture began teaching one man and one wife.  This was due to the growth of the Israelites as a nation.  It was no longer necessary to have several wives to provide a rapid popultion growth.  As the population of the world grew in general several things changed.  But the idea, getting back to the main subject, is that monogamy in marriage was a covenant for the union of a man and woman for life; just as we are Christ's for life (forever).  Within this there is the pronounced theme of forgiveness...

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  • Brother Lay,

    There has been this missed understanding about G-d, and we think He is this Super Good Papa, which He is, but we also are to live as His Children. G-d has set up His Laws from before The Beginning of Creation. Sometimes we think that Moses gave us G-d's Laws of living, but G-d's Laws are written down in our DNA. Everything was set into motion and planned out from before The Foundations of The Worlds were ever spoken to by G-d's Breath and His Mighty Hand.. G-d's Grace has always been in existence as well.

    When we try to reason about what G-d is thinking we are developing myths as the Greeks were doing with their corrupted thinking, and where did that get them? We can reason with G-d about some things, but we can't reason with Him about what He has said for us to live by because it is called sin. It is called sin when we start to think in our heart something that goes against His Words. It is called Rebellion and mans heart is full of rebellion.

    We must not try to rationalize sin and relate it to G-d's Grace. The Church doesn't have anything to say that goes against G-d's Word and His Comforter, The Holy Spirit which bears witness in our heart of what is The Truth. What G-d has said from the beginning is not reason to think that it is acceptable for us to live this way or that way because we now live under G-d's Grace. G-d's Grace is not a Car Blanche Card for us to get out of sins' condemnation with a free pass and still think we are a Holy People.

    What we do as Christians, should be always to follow G-d's Rules of living a Holy Life unto Him.

    Shalom,

    Lee...

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  • In this day and age, we are seeing/hearing a great deal of those trying to explain away 'gay'.  But, here is what God's plan was from the beginning... Man and Woman... not man and man or woman and woman....

    Also, all sorts of 'reason' for divorce.... yet, I find two reasons only... adultery and that one of the two are 'not a believer'. 

    Marriage is a bond between man and woman and is a sacred union.  

    But also, are we not bound by the law of the union if we are non believers?  

    God says, man and woman make a marriage.  God says it is better to marry than commit adultery.  He also says getting divorced by mans law does not release you from biblical law.  

    When we are 'born again', does that not clean our slate into a new Christian life that begins then?  Once we commit to that, we are bound by commitment to live in a "Godly" manner; marriage to one spouse.  Does that mean that all others before are void?  If you have been divorced (by man's law) before you accept Christ, is that like you have never married?

    Many questions, situations.  Yet, it is clear that we are not to be married to more than one spouse at a time... Accountability most certainly will be a judgement we will have to face.  

    And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

    (Genesis 2:18-24 KJVA) 

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